tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post2319779752224257389..comments2023-11-30T00:11:27.068+00:00Comments on Anak si Hamid: The Language Ding-Dong (CsH)anak si-hamidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01936071509364600235noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-19399792701842130972008-12-25T04:50:00.000+00:002008-12-25T04:50:00.000+00:00ManaManuBy using vulgar language in your comments,...ManaManu<BR/><BR/>By using vulgar language in your comments, you really shamed yourself.I guess all this talk about "Prestige" by the Gwailou is all nothing but a hot air balloon. If your ego got wacked, please take it out on your dog or your wife. Not when someone's opinion differ from yours. <BR/><BR/>Have a good day and merry christmas . Could not respond to people like you earlier because I was away in my second home somewhere in a more civilized "western" country and too busy enjoying the festivities. Don't worry, I am not upset by your name calling. Just being reinforced in my thinking that all this talk about "prestige" is just some gwailou's wishful pipe dream.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-47145682641847259722008-12-21T07:03:00.000+00:002008-12-21T07:03:00.000+00:00anonymous 10.33'"Mahathir's period in power has es...anonymous 10.33<BR/><BR/>'"Mahathir's period in power has established Malay prestige without the stengun or the jackboot, in an atmosphere of civility that is remarkable for Asia and rare anywhere in the world."<BR/><BR/>This gwailou doesn't know what he is talking about.Nuff said. '<BR/><BR/>You stupid a***-hole---if it had been otherwise, you probably wouldn't be around to write such crap in this blog. <BR/><BR/>You certainly don't what you are talking about . ..Nuff said. <BR/><BR/><BR/>manamanuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-30868440452066729602008-12-18T13:13:00.000+00:002008-12-18T13:13:00.000+00:00anoymous said,10.33pm'This gwailou doesn't know wh...anoymous said,<BR/>10.33pm<BR/><BR/>'This gwailou doesn't know what he is talking about.Nuff said.'<BR/><BR/>Is that it ?? Try to be more convincing ? Put your money where your mouth is ! This is written heckling !<BR/><BR/>musAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-20585175507411460792008-12-17T17:24:00.000+00:002008-12-17T17:24:00.000+00:00Beautiful indeed. You wrote it like it was a green...Beautiful indeed. You wrote it like it was a green and flowery meadow in the country side. It has been long since I last read writings like yours.<BR/>On the religious issue, you could have said no. I am not a Muslim but I do read and listen to the Quranic verses. I did learn Jawi during my school days. But hey, was not influenced at all. I am not complaining but thankful because by doing so I understand more about Islam and Muslims. I am still a Christian and always be one. Would you do what I did. Maybe you have done so. Does it make you closer to others who are not Muslims?<BR/>Last but not least, i love your English.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121803051866978230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-14246069364309861352008-12-17T06:33:00.000+00:002008-12-17T06:33:00.000+00:00"Mahathir's period in power has established Malay ..."Mahathir's period in power has established Malay prestige without the stengun or the jackboot, in an atmosphere of civility that is remarkable for Asia and rare anywhere in the world."<BR/><BR/>This gwailou doesn't know what he is talking about.Nuff said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-3761420321403545832008-12-16T23:43:00.000+00:002008-12-16T23:43:00.000+00:00I must commend you on your well argued, well resea...I must commend you on your well argued, well researched piece, subjective in essence (which no writer can avoid) but not biased. You state facts and your interpretation of them!<BR/><BR/>The Malaysian language ding dong reveals the deeply racial, oftentimes racist insecurities embedded in the psyche of peoples still unsure how to embrace egalitarianism and universalism - of persons, societies, economies etc.<BR/><BR/>While recognising that the world has become intolerant of bigots and chauvinists, how do we rid ourselves of innate family, communal and national loyalties? How do we become advocates of a universal citizenry and its values while answering the call of nationalism and patriotism at the same time?<BR/><BR/>I think this is a tall order and unachievable in a pure form! There has to be compromises!<BR/><BR/>We will remain intrinsically racial in our groups, loyal to our customs and traditions including language but accepting and accomodating of other groups and their ways.<BR/><BR/>We are not asking the Mandarin-speaking Chinese and Tamil-speaking Indians to forgo their languages.<BR/><BR/>Speak it and sspeak it well FOR GOD's SAKE just as the Malays must pay more than lip service to Malay!<BR/><BR/>But as far as the NATIONAL EDUCATION SYSTEM is concerned it must be through one language (to me ENGLISH which is neutral/universal). <BR/><BR/>Teach the vernaculars to the native speakers as POL. Their sense of pride at knowing themselves and their traditions must be through their native tongues.<BR/><BR/>America has been able to engineer its nationalism and patriotism more successfully because of its English-based education system. Singapore too!halimahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05067769453848000152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-75649439159194814592008-12-16T15:55:00.000+00:002008-12-16T15:55:00.000+00:00Many thanks for the history lesson as well as thos...Many thanks for the history lesson as well as those citation.ipv6https://www.blogger.com/profile/06844634736908255564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-16749487855914467162008-12-16T08:29:00.000+00:002008-12-16T08:29:00.000+00:00I find it strange that much of the discourse about...I find it strange that much of the discourse about ethnic relations have been centered on cultural differences. Admittedly, the latter do contribute, to a certain extent, in shaping the former. Perhaps an understanding of the basics of capitalist economics, which is embraced by almost all countries at present, will create more understanding.<BR/><BR/>When one sees how present day foreign workers live, one can perhaps start to understand things that happened 100 years ago. When capitalism hit Malaya, huge labour at "competitive" wages (e.g. those that require you to live in cramped conditions with your unwashed fellow workers) created a vacuum that could not be filled by the local Malay population. Just as today no Malaysian would entertain thoughts of taking up menial jobs (even cops need "extra income" to survive in KL), so was the case too with Malays during those days. This vacuum had to be filled, and one wonders why it wasn't by the Indonesians. If Indonesia had been under British control perhaps one wouldn't have to deal with the politics today. But the Dutch were there, and they just weren't going to allow the British to get ahead of them with "their" labour. Naturally, as a capitalist, you "source" your labour from overcrowded areas with a failed economy: China and India; just like Malaysian capitalists source their labour from Nepal and Indonesia today.<BR/><BR/>Just as there is economic tyranny in Malay society, where the bangsawan lorded over the peasants, perhaps it is not surprising to see economic tyranny committed by some of the more successful immigrants. But economic tyranny is economy tyranny, regardless of who commits them. What boils down to the end, is purely class struggle, and this is surely colour blind. Each of us have more in common than what politicians (who wish to maintain the status quo) would otherwise wish us to believe.prachaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15073417979523868574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-62639967854163784292008-12-16T03:34:00.000+00:002008-12-16T03:34:00.000+00:00Great read!Finally, someone with the balls to say ...Great read!<BR/><BR/>Finally, someone with the balls to say it.<BR/><BR/>I am just wondering when the racists will show up here.Amir Hafizihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371404893050352294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-42028568687900415212008-12-16T01:22:00.000+00:002008-12-16T01:22:00.000+00:00Hi dare: I came here via rockybru and enjoyed your...Hi dare: I came here via rockybru and enjoyed your writing at first sight. Maybe I will fall in love again. Will come back for aMore...<BR/><BR/>Can I re-Post this at My Blue H'aven? My email is chongyl2000@yahoo.com -- appreciate a note:)Tks in advance -- I assume AP (approval) is automatically gifted in blogosphere...:). YL, Desi<BR/><BR/>PS: I am picking up rockybru's post for cpiasia.net where i front as Editor, so indirectly your post gets a billing2, via the LINKS:):)chong y lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365847893009738913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-74341235227572613832008-12-15T18:25:00.000+00:002008-12-15T18:25:00.000+00:00May I call you NorI had the same experience of "co...May I call you Nor<BR/><BR/>I had the same experience of "conversion attempts" by my own classmates in my pre-u days as well as tertiary days.<BR/><BR/>This Chinese Christian girl asked me whether I would like to see a mansion with a swimming pool. We were poor then, so to me that was a great chance to step into a wealthy man's house.<BR/><BR/>I was really brought to this huge dwelling with grand gates and all. This girl and her other friends) took me to a living room with an organ. I was told to take a seat on the plush sofa and listen to the organ music. The sounds were so compelling and powerful, it was truly influential.<BR/><BR/>Then I was asked to close my eyes and hold hands with the ones seated next to me. The organ player started singing. He had this melodious and haunting voice, it was unnerving.<BR/><BR/>Soon I was told to open my eyes and drink from a tiny glass with red liquid and a green olive.<BR/><BR/>When I saw that drink, I was jolted into sanity. I refused to consume that scary liquid and demanded to be shown the swimming pool.<BR/><BR/>They tried to calm me down but I decided I had enough of their games. I stood up and put on my shoes and walked out the gates.<BR/><BR/>I never talked to that classmate of mine anymore.<BR/><BR/>These messiahs in uniform are quite active in school grounds. They approach you and asked for permission to discuss ways of life and will then proceed to TELL you that christianity is the most sensible way of life.<BR/><BR/>They target the more educated Malays. I heard they also "bribe" other Malays.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058653104014681765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504059632454233163.post-9020353428321920552008-12-13T22:50:00.000+00:002008-12-13T22:50:00.000+00:00Hi Nor !Thanks for that posting. Thanks for the in...Hi Nor !<BR/><BR/>Thanks for that posting. Thanks for the insight . Although we share many sentiments together--but this is so well expressed. Something I will remind , urge and make sure my three kids read and see further than just whats happening . They have been raised to be 'colour-blind too, -just as Abah had raised us. Some of my kids' best friends are Chinese - just like mine are. I remember Sin Ling, Hoe, Tong San, Thomas Lim and a few others. But sometime I can't help wondering what else they wanted out of this country. <BR/>I know a few Indonesian students, whom for I didn't even knew were Chinese because there is no indication through their namea that they are. They speak Indonesian and a few of tem could not even speak their dialect and even if they do -- its sounded terrible. I think my Hokkien is better than theirs.<BR/>And you know what ?--I can name at least one family of Indonesian Chinese who would love to settle here in Malaysia. They envied their local counterpart. <BR/><BR/>Yes --like I wrote somewhere. I remember Abah in tears on the eve of 31st. August 1957. Under the 'lampu pam' (pressure lamp) and listening to the radio as they played 'NegaraKu' for the first time. I was only ten the,. It stayed in my mind to see a 47 year old man crying in both happiness and sadness. Yes he said something like 'Finally..." and also added, 'What will become of our country...' I didn't understand then...<BR/><BR/>But I do now.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Mus...also anaksihamid...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com